Bad Quaker Announcement – Retirement From Public Speaking

With heartfelt thanks to everyone who has befriended and supported me over the years, it is with no sadness nor regret that I say that I will no longer be involved in any kind of public speaking. This includes podcasting, radio appearances, lectures, officiating weddings, and every other form of public speaking. I will also not be attending any public events or forums. This is mostly due to the health issues that will be discussed below, but it is also due to the fact that I believe I have said everything I need to say in public and anything else that I need to say should be done privately or anonymously, which will also be discussed below.
I’m very honored that people still invite me, but I can imagine no enticement, event, nor circumstances that would tempt me to make an exception to the above statement. I have discussed this extensively with my family and closest friends and we are in agreement that this is by far my best course of action.

My Abrupt Departure from Freedom Feens Radio
The timing of my departure from the nationally syndicated radio talk show, The Freedom Feens, was entirely driven by health issues and my desire to spend as much of my remaining free time as possible with my family. As discussed below, my ability to maintain a verbal conversation has drastically and suddenly deteriorated and is at the heart of the reason for my retirement from the public. However I would like to thank Michael Dean and all of the Feens co-hosts and Feen fans world-wide for the wonderful time I had as a Feen.
I would also like to thank Michael Dean for his ongoing efforts in editing and rebroadcasting the archived Bad Quaker Podcasts on the Freedom Feens radio show. For more on that topic follow THIS LINK to the Freedom Feens and learn more.
Additionally I would like to thank the admins at Art of Not Being Governed for their archive of the Bad Quaker podcasts. (Follow THIS LINK for the Bad Quaker archive)

Health Issues
Having sustained in excess of 35 concussions over my lifetime, my health began to rapidly deteriorate in 2002. After almost two years of extensive, painful, and expensive testing, physicians determined that I was suffering from Repetitive Head Injury Syndrome resulting in the early stages of Dementia Pugilistica. With time, and further testing, it was discovered that I responded well to a drug regiment consistent with the treatment of Parkinson’s Disease. This course of treatment focused on controlling outward symptoms such as muscle rigidity, uncontrolled muscle movements, and rhythmic tremors. I continue on this course of treatment today as it remains effective. However the other symptoms of Dementia Pugilistica such as loss of balance, REM sleep behavior disorder, sudden temporary disorientation, memory loss, and visual olfactory and auditory hallucinations were not successfully treated by drugs or doctors.
Since 2005 I have used light exercise and extensive reading as my treatment of Dementia Pugilistica and found it a far more effective method than anything my physicians had prescribed. By 2011 my balance had mostly returned, hallucinations had ceased, and my memory had improved dramatically. By 2013 I no longer needed a cane to safely walk without falling.
Unfortunately in mid-2015 my condition suddenly and without warning, took a negative turn. It was at that time my diagnosis shifted to include Lewy Body Dementia relating to the existing diagnosis of Dementia Pugilistica. In conjunction with the advice of my family and closest friends, I chose to end all public speaking.
There is little doubt that my overall condition will continue to deteriorate. It is impossible to predict the speed or progress of that deterioration. Over the past thirteen years we have seen my condition worsen, improve, and worsen again. Repetitive Head Injury Syndrome and the complications that come with it don’t follow predictable patterns of recovery or deterioration.

Well Wishers, Medical Professionals, Miracle Concoctions, and Magic Potion Pushers
Thank you. I deeply appreciate the intent, but please keep them to yourself.
I will not “get well soon.” In all likelihood, I will get worse until I die. And I am perfectly fine with that. I have never feared death and I have done little to avoid it. Telling me to “keep your chin up” will not change the orientation of my jaw line. I have lived an amazing life and enjoyed it far more than a normal person should. I have earned every concussion I have received and I deserved far worse than I got.
I have no interest in new drugs, more doctors, miracle cures, amazing treatments, psychic surgery, or the latest development in hemp infused garlic oil colonic hydrotherapy.
At some point in the future I will very likely be unable to decide my own course of treatment. For that reason I want to make it clear now, while I have my mind and the ability to express myself: I’m not seeking a cure and when the time comes I don’t want to be resuscitated.

Fanfare and Goodbye Ceremonies
Thank you but no thank you.
When the music is over, turn out the lights. Nothing more is needed. Funerals are morbid and stupid.

Future Involvement In The Push Toward Freedom
If you have my phone number or my email address, I am still healthy enough for private conversations. Please feel free to contact me. If you choose to call me, earlier in the day is usually better than later in the day, as I typically become less coherent the closer it gets to sunset.
Currently I can still write articles. If I choose to write articles, I will mostly do so anonymously and will mostly find alternative methods of publication, such as the darknet. I have already taken some steps to make this happen.

A thought to ponder:
I view the State as the embodiment of evil. I have quietly resisted or openly fought the State for over 45 years. Even when employed by government contractors I utilized subversive and seditious means to counteract whatever services I rendered government.
The State is the product of a theistic belief system that legitimizes government aggression. When we stop thinking of, and believing in, the State – it dies.
At some time in the future, as my mind slips away, I will forget the State exists. What better ending could I realistically hope for? Ultimately I will win.
Once again, I want to thank my family and closest friends for their input on this letter and for their assistance in this process.
–Ben Stone
Formerly The Bad Quaker, now just a simple man wandering a world of increasing madness.

gone fishing

Ben fishing into the sunset.

80 Responses to Bad Quaker Announcement – Retirement From Public Speaking

  1. Ben,

    I found you through the Feens way back when, and the Bad Quaker Podcast quickly ended up on the top of my subscription feed. When you stopped making shows, I knew I had to either interview you soon or at least get on the Feens with you, I regret that neither got to happen. But to make up for it, I’ll do my best to keep the liberty flame burning.
    Thank you for your service and worms!
    Nick Hazelton

  2. Al Freedman says:

    Thank you Ben.
    Without a doubt, i share this site and pods 10× more than the others combined.
    You’ve helped dis-indocrinate me with your words and message and I’ll do my best to pass it on.

  3. lenual says:

    Hello Ben,
    I just wanted to say thanks for helping me understand my feeling and put logical words with them. I think we may have meant when I was a kid at a hobby shop in the town where i grew up in Ohio, that I will not name. I wish you the best. And know that the quest for freedom will carry on with the words of truth you have passed along. A friend and I are attempting to keep the message flowing in a small farming community in southern Ohio. We hope to plan some meet ups out here in the near future, maybe i will see you there. Keep on Keeping on.

  4. TW says:

    My friend, the nights we spent around the campfire at the TSP meetup are some of the best campfire memories I have. Damn what a fine time that was. I love you Brother.


  5. Ron Shoemaker says:

    Thanks, Ben, for all you have done.

  6. Bernie says:

    Hey Ben,

    Your contributions have amazed, delighted, informed and entertained me and many, many others. That’s a good body of work to have produced.

    Thank you for your service.

  7. Chris Davis says:

    Ben, I’m not very good at these sorts of messages, but know that you’ve done a LOT of good in the world, influenced many for the better and had a real impact, probably more than many or most. Enjoy your days ahead knowing that. It was great to meet you in person the several times that our paths crossed.

    • Bad Quaker says:

      Thanks Chris
      It was great to meet and spend time with you.
      For those who don’t know, Chris is the artist who created the original waving AnCap flag meme.

      Keep rockin brother

  8. Michigan Escapee says:

    The podcasts were certainly entertaining if nothing else. It’s cool that you could leave something behind that was much more coherent and well formed, when most liberty stuff is just crazed, ranting, and aimless.

    But then, I suppose that was the appeal of the liberty/libertarian movement, at the beginning at least. Escapism and imagining the seemingly impossible. However, crazy ideas turn slightly more practical, and then you find some rational ways it might all work. And that’s when it gets a whole lot more interesting.

    The parkinson’s thing is certainly a pain in the ass. New and annoying symptoms over time, family members wondering why you aren’t dead after 10+ years of it yet, and the fact that dopamine levels shift so routinely, that you’re effectively nuts. Should one just embrace evil and insanity? Or get some Requip, and go on a sex, gambling, drinking and drugging binge? Ahh, if only those side effects were consistent. lol! Anything but slowly fading away and slowing down while the world speeds up and gets ready to go over a cliff…

    Well, been a fun ride.

  9. Sean DuVally says:

    You have been a wonderful teacher.

  10. Ben,

    Best wishes to you and to your loved ones. I hope that you live out your days in comfort and happiness; it sounds like you’ve chosen a path, in the face of a type of illness we all fear, that maximizes your chances of doing so.

  11. It’s never a pleasant thing when health issues limit you. I’ve enjoyed your work, but quite understand the need to pull back. My own multiple sclerosis worsening has kept me from article writing and podcasting for over a year thanks to constant fatigue and neuropathic pain, so unfortunately I really DO get why you need to withdraw.

    It’s an ongoing process making my environment as undemanding as possible and I still have some hopes of resuming my efforts even in a limited way if I can reach a comfort zone that would allow it; meanwhile I keep in touch with friends and open my big yap from time to time to comment on Facebook, YouTube and the odd essay.

    Good fortune to you, we may be down but we ain’t out.


  12. Russ Nelson says:

    You don’t have to be the bad quaker, but you can be a bad quaker. The world needs more bad Quakers. God knows that the good ones are hopeless.

  13. Ademo says:

    You stole my exit you Bad Quaker! Now I’m just going to be the guy who followed Ben Stone out the door. . . and that’s just fine by me.

    Enjoy the days my friend.

    – Ademo

    • Bad Quaker says:

      Thanks Ademo
      Take care of yourself. You carry a target everywhere you go. Our enemy hates you, and that proves you have made an impact.


  14. Jeff Berwick says:

    Mr. Stone, you have always been a class act and upon exit from your lifelong endeavor to spread freedom you once again did it with class. I thank you for your service and wish you all the best in the future.

  15. Neema Vedadi says:

    I still remember when Michael told me about you. “I found a new podcast and this guy is amazing. I like the way he talks”. I was skeptical until I heard the Bad Quaker, and then I was hooked. I was so stoked when you first mentioned the Feens on the air and discussed how the State is Satan, the bible says so. You always broke your arguments down to the bones so we could all see your train of thought. You’re also one of the nicest people I’ve ever met! My family and I will always remember that amazing trip to see you and Cindy in Alabama. “Ben” was the first grown-up Lily ever asked for by name! You are the wise grandpa the Liberty mission needed and when you’re gone your wisdom will live on. I know you’ve made peace because you’re a peacemaker.

    • Bad Quaker says:

      You know my feelings. Cindy and I love you and your beautiful family.
      I need to sit and watch the sun set with you again and again.


  16. John Milton says:

    Friend Ben:

    Thank you so much for all your good work.
    I wish a smooth road, and a glorious sunset for you as you make your final ride.

  17. Antonio Buehler says:

    Ben, I did not realize the extent of your health issues, and I hope that you are able to enjoy the time you have remaining on this earth. It was a pleasure meeting you and getting to see the work you were doing, and I appreciate your courage in trying to always stand on the side of virtue, liberty, and freedom.

    Thank you for being you,
    Antonio Buehler

    • Bad Quaker says:

      Thanks Antonio
      You have been of great encouragement to me.
      Keep up the great work you do. It’s people like you that give me confidence that someday we will win this thing.


  18. Jim Cunagin says:

    Without exaggeration, you’ve been one of the greatest influences on my adult life.
    Thank you for your service, friend.
    Vaya con dios.

  19. Andre says:

    I just wanted to thank you for everything before it’s too late. You have had such an impact on me, and I will never forget you for that. You helped a guy with a general problem with authority understand why I felt the way I did, and helped me to find the proper words to pair with what I was feeling. We have never met or spoken personally, but I wanted you to know that you have made a pretty serious mark in my life, and your name will always come up when I’m questioned about why I believe what I believe. I hope your remaining days are peaceful. You will be missed dearly, and I will do everything I can to continue this fight.

  20. Janet (LvsChant) says:

    It saddens me to hear about the struggles you and your family face, but want you to know that you have had a significant impact my how I view things. I feel blessed to have had contact with you on the TSP forum and BadQuaker.

    Thanks to online discussions with you, and the reading and learning I did on liberty and freedom, my philosophical views have radically changed over the years… you have made a difference to me and to many others. Sometimes it just takes a voice speaking logically to make people do a real self-examination. This opens the door to big changes.

    Peace to you and your family,


    • Bad Quaker says:

      Thanks so much Janet
      Your words are dear to my heart.
      To those who don’t know, Janet was one of my earliest supporters in the development of the Bad Quaker site and the podcast.
      She should be credited as one of my most important encouragements in stepping out of the shadows of the internet and boldly saying what I had to say.
      Thanks again Janet!


  21. Vince says:

    Thank you, Ben. You helped a rage filled “libertarian” become a much more peaceful and calm (although sometimes hot-headed, over-exuberant and spastic) anarchist. I always knew in my heart who I was. You helped me find my voice and my way. Thank you, so much.

  22. Jerry Ladd says:

    Thank you for your service dear Ben. You’ve taught me so much just listening to your words. I’m forever grateful to you, my fellow enemy of the state.

    • Bad Quaker says:

      Thanks Jerry
      I had no idea how good it would feel to have you and all these others stop by. This is very touching.


  23. Jay says:

    Thanks for your service and wisdom ,Ben. I will miss yours and Bill’s exchanges on liberty and history.

  24. Craig Miller says:

    Thanks so much for all the time you put in. You woke me up, I remember where I was standing, what I was doing and you were saying when it clicked in.

    Thanks again, God Bless

  25. Jonathan Rabbitt says:

    Thank you Ben, for your existence and contributions to humanity. You will be remembered, for sure, as one of the giants on whose shoulders we can stand.

  26. Michael Kay says:

    You introduced me to libertarianism and a whole new host of thinkers. I will never forget that. Thank you my friend.

    • Bad Quaker says:

      Michael, my old friend.
      So good to see you.
      For anyone reading this who doesn’t know Michael, he is the kind of man that, when the wall is breached, will leap into the gap and hold it fast.


  27. Jay Hailey says:

    I will miss you, Ben. You’ve been a much needed voice of humanity and freedom in my life.

    Thank you for being you, out where I could see it.

  28. Jacob Tothe says:

    I found your podcast several years ago, and it has helped me build a stronger foundation for my arguments against governments and The State. It is podcasts like yours that helped me understand the fundamental evil of the system, and why there are no magical words that will make the agents of The State act with honor or virtue.

    Parting thoughts from Larry Norman’s song, “The Great American Novel” from 1971 with some lyrical alterations from one of his later live performances:

    “You are far across the ocean and the war was not your own,
    While you’re losing that one, you’ll also lose the one at home;
    Do you really think the only way to bring about the peace
    Is to sacrifice your children and kill all your enemies?

    “The politicians all make speeches and the news men all take note,
    And they exaggerate false issues as they shove them down our throats;
    Is it really up to them whether this country sinks or floats?
    Well I wonder who would lead us if none of us would vote.

    “Well my phone is tapped and my lips are chapped from whispering through the fence,
    You know every move I make, or is that just coincidence?
    Well you try to make my way of life a little less like jail,
    If I promise to make tapes and slides and send them through the mail.”

  29. Mr. Bill says:

    Howdy, Ben. I like your attitude. All I can wish for you is the smoothest possible voyage.

  30. Craig says:

    Thank you for your service. I enjoyed the many hours that I have listened to you. Worms!

  31. Nichole LaRoche says:


    It was a pleasure getting to meet you and Cindy at Porc Fest. Your wisdom and stories are a delight.

    Peace & Worms!

  32. Bill Buppert says:


    Fighting by your side these past few years is an honor greater than my previous fights in neo-imperialist shit-pits planet-wide.

    You were always warm and receptive to my screeds and gibbon-like outbursts for liberty.

    You and I are like brothers who were separated at birth and didn’t see each other until close to our time to go to Valhalla.

    Keep the bench warm for me in the Great Hall for I will join you eventually should you pass before me.

    Danger is real but fear? You can control that and you do.

    I will try to touch base before I return to the Hindu Kush.

    Love you brother.


    ” Of every One-Hundred men, Ten shouldn’t even be there,
    Eighty are nothing but targets,
    Nine are real fighters…
    We are lucky to have them…They make the battle,
    Ah, but the One, One of them is a Warrior…
    and He will bring the others back.”

    – Heraclitus (circa 500 BC)

    • Bad Quaker says:

      He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
      Will stand a tip-toe when this day is named,
      And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
      He that shall live this day, and see old age,
      Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbors,
      And say “The morrow is Saint Crispian.”
      Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
      And say “These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.”
      Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
      But he’ll remember, with advantages,
      What feats we did that day.

      If I reach the great table before you, Bill, I’ll save you a horn of mead and a chair.
      We’ll pull up our sleeves and laugh about our scars.

  33. Jim Jesus says:

    I’ll miss chatting with you on the radio. Be well. Worms.

  34. Docwatmo says:

    My friend, the man who opened my eyes to liberty on TSP as a fellow Mod. I wish you the best old friend. Your voice will be missed.

    You will always be in my thoughts brother.


  35. Freya "Voluntaryist" Wilde says:

    Thanks for all your awesome sharing of the history of freedom and why anyone would want freedom from the state.
    From one Viking to another, the following is too late for us as it concerns statism,

    “Moderately wise
    a man should be
    not too crafty or clever.
    A learned man’s heart
    whose learning is deep
    seldom sings with joy. ”

    – The Havamal

    Long healthy journey to you and yours. :)


  36. Pete Eyre says:

    Thanks for choosing to live according to your principles. Much love Ben.

  37. Kyle Bennett says:


    Know that you’ve made a positive difference in your fight against the state, and will continue to do so as your words will far outlive you. I know it has affected me. You may not get there with us (I probably won’t either), but we’ll eventually get there. And whoever those people are who finally succeed, I’m certain that one way or another, through whatever twisted route of what might be by then just lore passed down or ancient wisdom on yellowed paper, it will have a few roots in your work.

    I understand the inappropriateness of “get well soon” and “keep your chin up”, but the one remaining wish is that you and your family get as much happiness and joy as possible out of whatever time you still have together.

  38. Ben, it’s a real pleasure to know you and I wish you the best. Godspeed.

  39. Lousander says:

    Thank you for your service, conversations, and friendship. When you go fishing, make sure you use Woims!

  40. Darwin Smith says:

    Thank you for your many years and untold hours of things you’ve said, Mr. Stone. Enjoy your time with family and friends. Worms, Ben Quaker. Worms.

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